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                      PROGRESS MEETING NO. 4




                                                   801120      #



                                                               CAMPS




















…02……02……02……02……02……02…801120…02…4…02…SHAPE

             Minutes of the Trade-off Negotiations
             and Progress Meeting conducted 18-20 November
             1980 at SHAPE


          Bgen Morgan                     L.S. Nielsen                 Svend
                                                                       Olsen
          Col. F. Woodruff                Gert Jensen                  Conf.
                                                                       Mgmt.
          Col. W. Miller                  B. Rinhart                   K.
                                                                       Nybroe-Nielsen
          LTC M. Stoltz                                               F.
                                                                      Enevoldsen
          Mr P. Shey                                                   B.
                                                                       Berthold
          Mr R. Marsh                                                  O.
                                                                       Eskedal
          Maj. L.D. Mcdaniel                                           J.P.
                                                                       Ringgaard
          Maj. J. Gorecki
          Mr J.P. Lohisse
          Mr D.A. Gardiner
          Mme F. Michel
          Mr J. Herrinck
          SFC Kiser


         1   Meetings were conducted at SHAPE during
             18-20 November 1980, between SHAPE/SHNMO
             and representatives of Christian Rovsing
             A/S. These meetings consisted of formal
             trade-off negotiations and the discussion
             of open items relating to the progress
             of the CAMPS project. These minutes are
             a record of the results of the negotiations
             and progress meeting to include agreements
             reached, action items still open, and
             who has responsibility for these actions.

         2   The formal trade-off negotiations were
             opened by BGen Morgan and the outline
             of the plan for the conduct of the negotiations
             and the progress meeting was presented
             by LTC Stoltz. Christian Rovsing A/S provided
             SHAPE with four proposals in the form
             of ECPs (Engineering Change Proposal)
             and these proposals as well as SHAPE's
             evaluation and position on each of these
             items were discussed. In each case, there
             was a cost associated with Christian Rovsing's
             proposals. SHAPE presented items which
             they had considered for trade-off in order
             to reach a no-cost solution to the acceptance
             of these proposals. The discussion of
             each of these items - Christian Rovsing
             A/S and SHAPE proposals - is contained
             in paragraph 3. The discussion of the
             progress review items is contained at
             paragraph 4. In some cases, items from
             the progress review meetings were discussed
             as part of the formal negotiation process.



             3   F̲O̲R̲M̲A̲L̲ ̲T̲R̲A̲D̲E̲-̲O̲F̲F̲ ̲N̲E̲G̲O̲T̲I̲A̲T̲I̲O̲N̲S̲

                 This paragraph is a summary of these
                 negotiations, the discussion of each
                 item and the results of the discussions.
                 The items agreed to are covered in
                 the attached memorandum.

                 I̲t̲e̲m̲

                 a)  Man-Machine Interface (MMI), ECP-001:

                     1)  Both SHAPE and Christian Rovsing
                         A/S agreed that an improved
                         MMI was desirable especially
                         since the MMI described in
                         the SRS/IFB was teletype oriented
                         and no longer within the state-of-the-art.
                         SHAPE had several questions
                         and recommended changes to
                         the CR proposal. These items
                         follow:

             SEE MEMO                                             a) SHAPE
                                                                     wanted
                                                                     to
                                                                     ensure
                                                                     that
                                                                     low
                                                                     speed
             OF AGREE-                                             teletype
                                                                   and
                                                                   OCR
                                                                   users
                                                                   could
                                                                   enter
                                                                   the
             MENT                                                 system
                                                                  using
                                                                  a
                                                                  format
                                                                  similar
                                                                  to
                                                                  the
                                                                  VDU
                                                                  user.
                                                                  CR
                                                                  replied
                                                                  that
                                                                  teletype
                                                                  users
                                                                  would
                                                                  be
                                                                  treated
                                                                  the
                                                                  same
                                                                  as
                                                                  OCR
                                                                  users.
                                                                  CR
                                                                  noted
                                                                  that
                                                                  the
                                                                  contract
                                                                  must
                                                                  be
                                                                  changed
                                                                  to
                                                                  reflec
                                                                  that
                                                                  CR
                                                                  will
                                                                  
             SHAPE/CR                                              provide
                                                                   OCR
                                                                   interface
                                                                   specifications
                                                                 specifications.

             SHAPE/CR                                             b) SHAPE
                                                                     would
                                                                     like
                                                                     a
                                                                     cursor
                                                                     selection
                                                                     in
                                                                     some
                                                                     cases
                                                                     as
                                                                     opposed
                                                                     to
                                                                     the
                                                                     user
                                                                     typing
                                                                     in
                                                                     his
                                                                     entry.
                                                                     This
                                                                     will
                                                                     be
                                                                     evaluated.

             CLOSED, SEE                                          c) SHAPE
                                                                     would
                                                                     like
                                                                     to
                                                                     retain
                                                                     both
                                                                     page
             MEMO OF AGREE-                                        and
                                                                   scroll
                                                                   mode
             MENT
                         d)                                      Format
                                                                 generation
                                                                 is
                                                                 proposed
                                                                 to
                                                                 be
                                                                 done
                                                                 off-line
                                                                 for
                                                                 pre-formatted
                                                                 message
                                                                 specifications
                                                                 by
                                                                 site.
                                                                 How
                                                                 this
                                                                 will
                                                                 be
             SHAPE/CR                                              handled
                                                                   at
                                                                   initialization
                                                                   and
                                                                   update
                                                                   
                                                                 will
                                                                 be
                                                                 the
                                                                 topic
                                                                 of
                                                                 a
                                                                 separate
                                                                 meeting.



             CLOSED                                              e) SCDs
                                                                    for
                                                                    coordination
                                                                    is
                                                                    limited
                                                                    to
                                                                    ten
                                                                    (ref.
                                                                    SRS)

             SHAPE ACTION                                          f) More
                                                                      detailed
                                                                      analysis
                                                                      of
                                                                      the
                                                                      proposal
                                                                      and
                                                                      preparation
                                                                      of
                                                                      SHAPE
                                                                      detailed
                                                                      MMI
                                                                      will
                                                                      be
                                                                      forthcoming.

                     2)  CR proposal had a cost (17
                         mm) associated with the documentation
                         update and a one month delay
                         as a result. SHAPE proposed
                         SHAPE assistance in terms
                         of man months of effort as
                         opposed to providing additional
                         funding. The SHAPE position
                         was that this is an adequate
                         trade-off and should result
                         in no additional cost (IAUs)
                         to SHAPE. CR accepts that
                         this will partly off-set the
                         associated cost. CR maintained
                         that the terms of the memorandum
                         of agreement do not outbalance
                         the increased cost incurred
                         by CR.

                         The SHAPE personnel assisting
                         in the documentation update
                         will work under CR management
                         and the SHAPE team leader
                         will be Mr. Gardiner. The
                         scope of work and work site
                         was proposed by SHAPE for
                         CR
             SHAPE/CR                                             consideration
                                                                  and
                                                                  is
                                                                  included
                                                                  in
                                                                  the
                                                                  memorandum
                                                                  of
                                                                  agreement.
                                                                  Details
                                                                  in
                                                                  the
                                                                  memorandum
                                                                  must
                                                                  still
                                                                  be
                                                                  discussed.

                 b)  R̲e̲t̲r̲i̲e̲v̲a̲l̲ ̲C̲r̲i̲t̲e̲r̲i̲a̲,̲ ̲E̲C̲P̲-̲0̲0̲2̲

                     Both SHAPE and CR agreed that
                     this ECP should be treated as
                     part of the MMI ECP since these
                     items go hand in hand. Additionally,
                     the cost associated with this
                     ECP should be treated in the same
                     fashion and together with the
                     MMI ECP. That is, SHAPE offers
                     approximately 25 man weeks of
                     effort to help with the required
                     update of the documentation as
                     a result of the acceptance of
                     the technical changes of CR ECPs
                     001 and 002. Additionally SHAPE
                     had several recommended changes
                     or questions relating to the retrieval
                     proposal.



                     1)  CR proposal calls for 12 hours
                         of on line storage. SHAPE
                         feels it needs more (24
             CR          hours). CR will study the
                         impact.

                     2)  SHAPE desires to provide the
                         ability to retrieve on FL3
                         (supervisor). CR agrees to
             CLOSED                                              provide
                                                                 this
                                                                 facility.

                     3)  SHAPE also require the ability
                         to retrieve on PLA, short
                         PLA or PLA reference number.
                         PLA and short PLA will be
                         specified in
             CLOSED                                              modified
                                                                 ACP
                                                                 117.

                     4)  The ECP-002 as modified by
                         Appendix A to these minutes
                         constitutes the baseline for
                         the incorporation of the ECP
                         to the SRS.

                 c)  E̲M̲I̲ ̲S̲o̲l̲u̲t̲i̲o̲n̲,̲ ̲E̲C̲P̲-̲0̲0̲3̲

                     1)  SHAPE reviewed the history
                         of this issue starting with
                         the bidder's conference to
                         the present. The following
                         summarizes SHAPE's position.
                         Initially, CR was non-compliant
                         with the EMI requirement but
                         was allowed to come in with
                         a supplement to their bid.
                         During the clarification session,
                         prior to final contract signing,
                         CR proposed a small screened
                         cage around the main computer
                         racks (3 racks). After the
                         letter of intent was signed,
                         CR surfaced a solution of
                         seven racks in a caged enclosure.
                         ACE COMSEC replied that this
                         was not acceptable for many
                         reasons.

                     2)  CR maintain that the seven
                         racks in cage solution were
                         presented to SHAPE during
                         discussions prior to the issue
                         of letter-of-intent and that
                         a cage solution was in principle
                         accepted by SHAPE and that
                         this approach will satisfy
                         the requirements of AMSG 720a.
                         CR stated that they pursued
                         an alternate (rack) solution
                         because of SHAPE insistence
                         that cage solution will not
                         work or will present problems
                         from an EMI requirement standpoint.
                         Both SHAPE and CR recognize
                         the rack as the better solution.



                     3)  SHAPE position is that CR
                         was given additional funding
                         to satisfy the EMI problem
                         and that CR should not now
                         demand even more additional
                         funds because of their proposed
                         rack solution. CR position
                         is that this is a better solution
                         than the cage but will also
                         require additional funding
                         for development and qualification.

                     4)  SHAPE position is that SHAPE
                         will not pay more for a solution
                         which is CR choice and which
                         satisfies terms of the contract.
                         SHAPE also feels that the
                         rack solution will cost CR
                         less in the modified civil
                         works requirements than the
                         cage and that this should
                         have been taken into account.
                         If CR will not agree to SHAPE
                         position, SHAPE will select
                         the cage solution and advise
                         CR that there may be problems
                         at some sites in trying to
                         implement that solution. SHAPE
                         will review site survey results
                         and advise CR of any problems
                         or potential problems by trying
                         to implement the originally
                         proposed cage solution. CR
             SHAPE/CR                                             has
                                                                  taken
                                                                  SHAPE
                                                                  position
                                                                  under
                                                                  advisement.

                     5)  CR will make their final choice
                         after information has been
                         received from ACE COMSEC as
                         to whether or not a shielding
                         effectiveness test may be
                         conducted at CR's facility
                         without the use of a shielded
                         test
             SHAPE                                               stand.

                 d)  P̲o̲w̲e̲r̲ ̲F̲r̲e̲q̲u̲e̲n̲c̲y̲ ̲S̲t̲a̲b̲i̲l̲i̲z̲a̲t̲i̲o̲n̲,̲
                     ̲E̲C̲P̲-̲0̲0̲4̲

                     SHAPE feels that CR should look
                     at the market to see if disk drives
                     using DC current could be utilized
                     to eliminate the frequency fluctuation
                     problem experienced at some sites.
                     CR has stated that this apporach
                     would require the development
                     of another interface which would
                     result an additional cost and
                     most likely some delay. CR currently
                     plans to use CDC drives, which
                     have too narrow a tolerance to
                     accommodate frequency fluctuations.
                     CDC will be asked to investigate
                     the impact of frequency fluctuation
                     on their drives and provide


                     information as to reliability
                     and variance under such conditions.
                     CR will investigate and provide
                     results to SHAPE for consideration.
                     SHAPE will then have to evaluate
                     error rate to determine if it
                     is acceptable. This item is
             CR      still open. Decision is required
                     before the end
             SHAPE       of November 1980 so as not
                         to impact delivery schedule.

                 e)  T̲e̲r̲m̲i̲n̲a̲l̲ ̲S̲t̲a̲n̲d̲a̲r̲d̲i̲z̲a̲t̲i̲o̲n̲

                     1)  There are two options in this
                         area. 1̲ Standardize CAMPS
                         and SCARS II or 2̲ Standardize
                         throughout CAMPS. SHAPE has
                         querried Burroughs to determine
                         their choice and received
                         no answer. Additionally it
                         was discussed that standardization
                         was not possible due to Burroughs
                         (SCARS II
             CR          Requirements). CR will be
                         allowed to go on its own.

                     2)  CR advised that the new MMI
                         proposal has impacted their
                         VDU selection from a cost
                         standpoint in that this will
                         require a more intelligent
                         VDU. This cost is off-set
                         by the change in the payment
                         plan agreed to by SHAPE and
                         included in the memorandum
                         of
             CLOSED                                              agreement.

                     3)  SHAPE has gone to the P&P
                         Committee to request release
                         from requirement to go IFB
             CLOSED                                              for
                                                                 the
                                                                 remote
                                                                 terminals.

                     4)  The Tempest solution to VDU
                         selection was discussed. CR
                         acknowledged the Tempest requirement
                         and have stated that they
                         will have an option in their
                         contract with the VDU manufacturer
                         which states that no payments
                         will be rendered until the
                         Tempest
             CLOSED                                              certificate
                                                                 is
                                                                 produced
                                                                 and
                                                                 submitted.

                     5)  SHAPE will, as soon as possible,
                         arrange a meeting between
                         the UK COMSEC Authorities,
                         Lynwood, CR, and SHAPE for
                         discussions on
             SHAPE                                               tempest
                                                                 approval
                                                                 of
                                                                 the
                                                                 Lynwood
                                                                 VDU.



                     6)  The V24 and fiber optic outlets
                         were discused for terminals.
                         Since only 33 of the more
                         than 300 CAMPS terminals required
                         V24, it was discussed to change
                         the remainder of the VDUs
                         to fiber optics. This action
                         requires the purchase of more
                         fiber optic complexes. SHAPE
                         decided that it needs the
                         operationally flexibility
                         for both. CR agreed to provide
                         (see memorandum
             CLOSED                                              of
                                                                 agreement).

                     7)  If CR selects the Lynwood
                         terminal, it provides no video
                         output which is still a requirement.
                         It was noted that this is
                         a SHAPE trade-off item. (Memorandum
                         of
             CLOSED                                              agreement)

…02…             f)  S̲t̲a̲t̲i̲s̲t̲i̲c̲s̲/̲L̲o̲g̲g̲i̲n̲g̲:̲

                     SHAPE had analyzed this as a possible
                     trade-off item.  SHAPE had, however,
                     decided that these
             CLOSED      requirements must be retained.

                 g)  P̲r̲e̲e̲m̲p̲t̲i̲o̲n̲/̲S̲u̲s̲p̲e̲n̲s̲i̲o̲n̲:̲

             CLOSED      Same as paragraph f. above.

                 h)  T̲e̲s̲t̲ ̲R̲e̲d̲u̲c̲t̲i̲o̲n̲:

                     This was discussed as a possible
                     trade-off item but it was agreed
                     that not enough information was
                     available to make a decision as
                     to a test 
…02…DEFERRED         reduction at this time.

                 i)  M̲e̲d̲i̲u̲m̲ ̲S̲p̲e̲e̲d̲ ̲P̲r̲i̲n̲t̲e̲r̲ ̲w̲i̲t̲h̲ ̲k̲e̲y̲b̲o̲a̲r̲d̲:̲

                     SHAPE indicated that this requirement
                     was waived (i.e. keyboard) with
                     no benefit accrued to SHAPE. 
                     CR indicated that this benefit
                     accrued to them for losses incurred
                     prior to contract settlement in
                     the bidding process, and that
                     the keyboards were not included
                     in the 
…02…CLOSED           cost the first place.



                 j)  H̲a̲r̲d̲w̲a̲r̲e̲ ̲C̲o̲n̲f̲i̲g̲u̲r̲a̲t̲i̲o̲n̲:̲

                     SHAPE indicated that the change
                     in hardware configuration benefitted
                     CR with no benefit accruing to
                     SHAPE.  CR responded as in item
                     i.
…02…CLOSED           above.

             4…02…P̲R̲O̲G̲R̲E̲S̲S̲ ̲R̲E̲V̲I̲E̲W̲ ̲I̲T̲E̲M̲S̲.̲

                 The following open items were discussed
                 with CR:

                 a)  S̲C̲A̲R̲S̲/̲C̲C̲I̲S̲ ̲I̲n̲t̲e̲r̲f̲a̲c̲e̲:̲

                     CR was provided the final TARE
                     interface specification.  They
                     can now proceed with their design.
                      SHAPE will act as liaison between
                     CR and Burroughs for any future
                     questions and any changes to this
                     document will be handled as an
                     ECP.  CR responded that CR still
                     need to
…02…SHAPE, as        evaluate the specification before
                 it is
…02…required         approved.

                 b)  P̲o̲w̲e̲r̲ ̲R̲e̲q̲u̲i̲r̲e̲m̲e̲n̲t̲ ̲L̲i̲s̲t̲:̲

                     CR has provided information as
                     to power requirements for some
                     of their equipment.  SHAPE has
                     indicated that this information
                     is necessary in order to inform
                     sites, which may be concerned,
                     of any unusual requirements. 
                     CR is reluctant to provide too
                     much detail without knowing the
                     exact impact of that information.
                      This will be clarified and the
                     requested information will be
                     provided as a modification of
                     the table shown in CPS/007/PRO/0002
                     fig. 
…02…1. CR…02…        4.5.2.1 to SHAPE during the first week
             of 
…02…2. SHAPE…02…     January l981.

                 c)  S̲t̲u̲d̲e̲n̲t̲ ̲T̲e̲x̲t̲b̲o̲o̲k̲s̲:̲

                     After clarification of SHAPE's
                     position CR agreed with the SHAPE
                     position on the content of the
                     student textbook.  That is, that
                     these textbooks will contain extracts
                     from appropriate technical manuals
                     but that the use of the technical
                     manuals will be necessary during
                     the lectures.  When CR submits
                     their proposed textbook to NCS
                     Latina, NCS will evaluate adequacy.
                      (Minutes of NCS meeting 6 - 
…02…CLOSED           10 October l980).



                 d)  S̲i̲t̲e̲ ̲D̲r̲a̲w̲i̲n̲g̲s̲,̲ ̲D̲N̲ ̲1̲7̲6̲:̲

                     SHAPE and CR have discussed this
                     issue and have agreed that the
                     SHAPE position as presented during
                     the discussions is acceptable.
                      SHAPE will redraft the SRS in
                     this area for CR review and incorporation
                     into the final SRS document. 
                     The position is basically as follows.
                      CR is responsible to ensure that
                     all available information was
                     collected during their site surveys.
                      This becomes the baseline.  It
                     is SHAPE responsibility to advise
                     CR of any changes to that baseline.
                      Civil Works drawings need to
                     be detailed enough to allow nations
                     to build their site to accommodate
                     CAMPS and these drawings will
                     be the basis for site verification.
                      The drawings should be provided
                     to SHAPE as soon as possible so
                     that civil works preparation can
                     begin.  As-to-be-built drawings
                     are the basis for ACE COMSEC approval
                     prior to CR installation of CAMPS.
                      These may be delivered to SHAPE
                     6 - 9 months prior to installation
                     start.  As-to-be-built drawings,
                     modified as necessary, become
                     the as-built drawings.  SHAPE
                     will continue to provide CR with
                     information (eg. terminal locations,
                     SCDs etc) and drawings as they
                     become available.  As a result
                     of this discussion, CR proposed
                     advanced payment to accomodate
                     this.  SHAPE 
SHAPE            agreed.  (see memorandum).

                 e)  R̲e̲c̲o̲v̲e̲r̲y̲ ̲P̲r̲o̲p̲o̲s̲a̲l̲:̲

                     At the 3rd Progress Meeting, SHAPE
                     and CR discussed a six week delay
                     in the project Specifically, they
                     were referring to the delay in
                     the delivery of the Systems Design
                     documentation originally scheduled
                     for 1 Nov. 80.  CR was to propose
                     a plan for recovery.  It was determined
                     that if the SDR, currently scheduled
                     for early Jan 81, went smoothly
                     then there would be no cause for
                     alarm and no real 
…02…SHAPE/CR         delay to the project.  SHAPE will
                 support CR in 
…02…Re-evalu-        attempt to close SDR by 25. Jan. 81
                 (see 
…02…SDR              memorandum)



                 f)  S̲h̲o̲c̲k̲ ̲a̲n̲d̲ ̲V̲i̲b̲r̲a̲t̲i̲o̲n̲ ̲C̲r̲i̲t̲e̲r̲i̲a̲:̲

                     SHAPE requirement for this data
                     was explained in relation to the
                     requirements of War Headquarters
                     to withstand certain levels of
                     shock and vibration.  CR will
                     provide this 
CR               data.  Specifically of concern is
                 the capability of disk drives to withstand
                 certain levels of shock and the impact
                 this will have on all computer systems
                 in hardened sites.

                 g)  D̲e̲l̲i̲v̲e̲r̲a̲b̲l̲e̲ ̲S̲t̲a̲t̲u̲s̲:̲

                     The status of deliverable items
                     per CDRL was discussed.  Most
                     of this status was given with
                     no detail.  To summarize:

                     1)  CR has action on the following
                         documents:
                         CR Logistics Support Plan,
                         Installation Plan, Configuration
                         Management Plan & ACP 127
                         Procedures.
                         CR has also stated that ICD-004
                         (NICS/TARE) and ICD-008 (OCR)
                         were due to be mailed on 19
                         Nov; and that ICD-007 (point-to-point)
                         
…02…CR                   is due to be mailed on 24. Nov.

                     2)  SHAPE has action on the following
                         documents:
                         PIP, Subcontract Management
                         Plan, R&M Plan,
                         Transportation Plan, Documentation
                         Plan, RSPL, Supervisor Formats
                         and QA Plan.  The following
                         were discussed in more detail:

                         a)                                      Documentation
                                                                 Plan.
                                                                 
                                                                 SHAPE
                                                                 preliminary
                                                                 review
                                                                 cited
                                                                 need
                                                                 to
                                                                 cross
                                                                 reference
                                                                 to
                                                                 CDRL.
                                                                 
                                                                 CR
                                                                 agreed
                                                                 to
                                                                 use
                                                                 CDRL
                                                                 number
                                                                 on
                                                                 future
                                                                 documents
                                                                 as
                                                                 well
                                                                 as
                                                                 their
                                                                 own
                                                                 
…02…CR                       control number.

                         b)                                      QA
                                                                 Plan.
                                                                 
                                                                 SHAPE
                                                                 has
                                                                 received
                                                                 CR
                                                                 reply.
                                                                 
                                                                 SHAPE
                                                                 will
                                                                 telex
                                                                 AMC
                                                                 to
                                                                 verify
                                                                 that
                                                                 CR
                                                                 has
                                                                 applied
                                                                 for
                                                                 AQAP
                                                                 1
                                                                 Certification.
                                                                 
                                                                 When
                                                                 confirmed,
                                                                 SHAPE
                                                                 will
                                                                 provide
                                                                 
…02…SHAPE                    conditional approval.

                     3)  SHAPE solicited comments on
                         how to improve service to
                         CR.  CR replied that immediate
                         acknowledgement of document
                         receipt would 
…02…SHAPE                be helpful



                 h)  A̲c̲t̲i̲o̲n̲ ̲I̲t̲e̲m̲ ̲S̲t̲a̲t̲u̲s̲:̲

                     SHAPE reminded CR of discussion
                     at 3rd progress meeting and proposed
                     a format (used by Burroughs) to
                     report on status of action items.
                      CR is developing forms - one
                     for SHAPE and one for CR items.
                      Format will be issued at next
                     progress meeting in December.
                      Report is to be mailed in months
                     when no progress 
…02…CR               meetings are held.

                 i)  S̲y̲s̲t̲e̲m̲ ̲D̲e̲s̲i̲g̲n̲ ̲T̲e̲c̲h̲n̲i̲q̲u̲e̲s̲:̲

                     SHAPE and CR discussed the establishment
                     of the informal exchange of technical
                     information.  To this end, SHAPE
                     explained its new engineering
                     support section organization.
                      SHAPE also explained its request
                     for certain systems design information
                     required for a better understanding
                     of the system.  Some of the items
                     discussed were programming language
                     used, process architecture, operating
                     system description, CAMPS application
                     software, the design process,
                     data base design and technical
                     reports.  CR provided some of
                     the information and stated that
                     the rest would be available at
                     the SDR or subsequent detailed
                     design reviews.  CR was also asked
                     the following specific questions:

                     1)  How does user redirect messages
                         to another VDU?  Answer provided,
                         through supervisor only.

                     2)  How does VDU user get a print
                         out at a logically associated
                         printer?  Answer 
…02…CR                   forthcoming.

                 j)  F̲i̲b̲e̲r̲ ̲O̲p̲t̲i̲c̲s̲:̲

                     CR was asked to provide information
                     on their fiber optics since users
                     were concerned about the method
                     to penetrate the EMP shield with
                     
…02…CR               same.  CR will provide information.

…02…5.           The above referenced meeting/negotiations
             were concluded on 20 Nov 80 with the agreements
             and open action items as described above.
              Both SHAPE and CR agreed that expeditious
             resolution of open items was in the best
             interest of both parties.